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. >> i hear the polls have romney up by 67 points today. i think hysteria is a good word and i like andrew sullivan as much as the next conservative -- not conservative pundit he claims to be. i do think -- you know, in politics you can never extrap plate from a given point. everything is trend lines one way or the other direction. that was a bad night for the president and anybody who wants him to win. but it's not the last point we're going to see on the graph here. we're going to see, you know, two more debates, we're going to see more speeches, may see oscar the grouch get involved, who knows. but so, you know, plenty of time. if mitt romney, you know, could survive three bad weeks after the 47% video, the president can survive a bad debate performance and after the next one, whatever happened in the first time, won't matter. he may not -- he may do worse, may do better but won't matter anymore after the next two debates. >> also, to your point about graphs there is a an interesting graph in t"the new york times" when incumbents win and when they don't and which way employment i
of the reasons why you see governor romney improve in terms of polls is got the discussion back on the economy and the central issues of taxes and seeing clearly both sides have a different view in terms of what the governor proposing. watching that play out and ultimately i would suggest this is a good conversation for governor romney to be involved in. >> let me just make the point that, you know, governor romney pays a 14% income tax rate which is less than most working families pay in this country and ought to be the first question to him. if we all believe and i think we should that we need to reform the tax code the demonstration of that is the fact there's wealthy man that pays a 14% tax rate, much less than most americans. >> we didn't hear that from the president and one of the reasons even democrats obviously very concerned about the debate performance. but david, an obama fund-raiser in new york summed it up this way. the jobs numbers and the campaign-finance numbers which we just saw will take democrats out of group therapy and keep them focused on the urgent task ahead of re-elect
>>> good morning. i'm chris janesing. mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is preparing for a co comeback and joking about the last performance. >> everybody here incredible professionals, such great friends and they just perform flawlessly. night after night. i can't always say the same. >> i want to bring in perry bacon and robert costa. good morning, guys. >> good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> so, what do you think? does this poll give the obama campaign something to worry about? what do you think, perry? >> i think the debate performance gave them something to worry about. you have seen democrats very strongly critical of his debate performance. th
. fox news alert a surge in the polling puttings mitt romney on top in the race for the white house. "pew research poll"ing shows since the debate last week, mitt romney leaping ahead of president obama. what a swing that is, 49-45%. keep in mind that is likely voters too. you have to ask a few more questions to figure out whether you're registered voter or likely voter. likely voter polls are more accurate in the end. look who is back here. martha: hello, everybody. bill: celebrating columbus day. martha: i always do. thank goodness he discovered the country. good morning i'm martha maccallum. mitt romney ahead of the president but wiping out the double digit lead with women voters. you remember what that used to be. bill: republican nominee continues to press on this issue, that's the economy. >> can we afford four more years like the last four years? he wants another stimulus. how did that first one work out? and then, he wants to pick winners and losers among companies, or losers in his case and then, of course he wants to hire more government workers. look, all of these things
gap. and president obama is flyi to florida after playing down romney's rise in the polls and his own poor debate performance. >> governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. -- >> how bad in its not the first time i've had a bad night. >> and overseas, holding out hope for the school girl now being called an icon of pakistan. we'll get a live report on malala's condition. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live at center college in danville, kentucky. ahead of an -- here we've got a great crowd here already. already for tonight's crucial debate, the vice presidential debate in a presidential campaign that has a razor-thin edge. joining me now is chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and chuck todd, nbc's chief white house correspondent, political director and host of "the daily rundown." >> abe lincoln behind you. >> let me go to chris cillizza first. >> sure. >> back in washington, talk about the stake as head. what are the two burdens, if you will for the two candidates tonight? >> well, look, i mean i think it is relatively obvious that
cap. according to the poll, romney's wiped off the board any lead, brought it to a dead heat. do you think this is real? and i have to talk about my deceased irish catholic grandmother, because she used to say about pollsters, if they have the nerve to ask, you have the nerve to lie. but could they really have wiped away the gap that they had? >> you know, unclear. i mean, here's the thing. i've always contended that for romney, it wasn't just about having one good debate performance. he's got to show some consistency. he's had a few good days. i think the jobs numbers and the big bird gaffe, if you will, have given team obama a bit of an opportunity to, you know, to rebound and push back, but we'll see. i mean, these polls are a snapshot in time. they certainly suggest that romney, as we all said, had a great debate performance. people took a second look and said, all right, let me pay attention, let me see what i think about this guy. the question is, now that they're taking that second look, when they go to his website and say, wait a second, what he said on the stage about people
according to the polling. >> i think money has had an impact, especially in ohio. the romney campaign hadn't been advertising in youngstown for the first couple of weeks of last month. that hurt hem in the polls. the romney campaign has to step up to make sure they have the resources. the enthusiasm gap really helps them. this will be a tight election. both sides will be excited. >> bill, you worked in the white house. you have done debate prep before. what happened? who didn't show up? where was barack obama last wednesday? >> i don't think anybody, including the media was ready for mitt romney. somebody willing to walk away from their bigs policy positions, talk about -- >> we watched him in the primary debates. he demolished newt gingrich. >> he did do pretty good. i don't think he won those by not telling the truth about what he was for. the republican debates you had a clearer sense of where he was. not this strange new picture. >> the biggest lie of the campaign is the lie that mitt romney will raise taxes on the middle class. mitt romney has no chance of raising taxes on the middle
taken after the first presidential showdown. according to the "fox news poll" the romney ryan ticket got a boost jumping three points while the obama-biden ticket dropped three. the impact of the debate seems greater among independents with that voting bloc jumping five points in support of team romney while team obama dropped 7 points. president obama's opinion stayed the same after the debate while gove romney's rose four percentage points. that gives him a one point lead. still when you factor in the margin of error it is still too close to call. how did the president and governor romney did at the debate? both are weighing in. >> well, governor romney i had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it is not the first time i've had a bad night. >> well, obviously the president wasn't happy with the response to our debate last night. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> well i, you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. jon: joining us now is karl rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contr
in florida, romney up one in virginia. but a word of caution about single polls, "the new york times" and quinnipiac shows the president up by five in virginia, up by three in wisconsin, and romney up by a single point in colorado. there's much more game in this game, folks. let's get right to our panel. our man in kentucky, chris matthews, host of "hardball," and chuck todd, host of the daily rundown. chris, if i might start with you, i know you like to see a good scrap. and you were disappointed by the president's performance last week. so you tell us, how does the 69-year-old political veteran tame the 42-year-old young gun tonight? >> well, i think he has to remind the people in the middle who are going to make the decision that this is about two very different points of view about the future of the country. the great thing about running against paul ryan is he has real beliefs. he believes we should get rid of medicare as we know it and tell 82-year-old people to go out and buy health insurance if they can find somebody to sell it to them. go get on the bus and find somebody to
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in the buckeye state. the first poll was conducted entirely after last week's debate shows romney with a four-point lead monday likely voters. it's a 12-point swing. if you look at gallup, obama leads among registered voters but romney leads among the all important likely voters. it's why both pull out the big guns on the trail calling in bill clinton and chris christie, while the running mates are holed up in debate prep. they face off thursday in kentucky. one month out, and we start today with "washington post" political columnist dana millback. >> hi, s.e. >> hi. let's start with with the pugh poll. it puts hit ahead likely voters and registered voters and he's made big gains among women voters and middle class voters. is it about one debate night? >> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we'
't say any more that debates don't matter. the new cnn poll, poll of polls, mitt romney has a slight lead with likely voters, 48% to 47%. his performance certainly showed that you can't say it doesn't matter anymore. there is no bigger swing state than ohio, where you are. >> reporter: the history tells you no republican has ever been elected president without winning the state of ohio. can you do the math and have romney win without this state? yes. is it likely? no. before the debate some polls had him down as many as nine points in ohio. new cnn poll row leased last night has him down four, 51-47. another group, american research group show ed romney up a point in ohio. no question. just like in the national polls, a bit of a boost. romney is up in the suburbs, up among independents. there's signs of strength here from romney, we can tell you there are a few soft spots he needs to work on. >> john king in ohio, covering the debates as well. thank you very much. watch live coverage of the debate tomorrow night, 7:00 eastern. watch it on cnn or on cnn.com. >>> happening this morning, the
and more polls show romney has regained the lead. the momentum is here, and there is increasing anxiety among the democrats over worry that the president could be losing. with to new momentum, mitt romney is going back to the economy, pushing hard on jobs and the idea that the obama record ask not deserve re-election as he has been saying now since the convention, saying the country cannot afor another four more years of this. >>shepard: thank you, carl cameron coming from delaware, ohio. >>shepard: this is on the east of the first and only scheduled vice presidential debate with less than a month until the election. polls are tightening. the stakes are high. vice president biden under pressure to reverse the momentum after the lack of president obama's performance and the v.p. has decades of experience and he has had some great debates. youtube, google it, look it up. but he has the reputation for gaffes which makes it great. paul ryan, owns has lots of different specific positions but he hasn't mentioned them the maybe he will capitalize on the momentum tomorrow. he made a name for hi
, this is an average of all political polls. it puts mitt romney in a dead heat with president obama in the race for the white house. doug schoen and john leboutillier are with us. doug used to advise president clinton. john former republican congressman from new york. doug, to you first. how does romney maintain this momentum? >> this is a challenge. it is a revival. it is not in any way a fundamental alteration in a race that's always been close. it is closer still, but he's in the in the lead -- but he's not in the lead. he needs to outline clearly where he's going to take america, what his vision is and how most importantly dagen his agenda will impact and improve the lives of ordinary americans. dagen: let's focus short run. what about the vice presidential debate? is it more about gaining wins at this point in that debate and the remaining two presidential debates or not making a mistake? >> well, i think that if i'm ryan, i'm going to try to go to biden, who i think can make a mistake. they are really preparing biden very heavily for this thing. i would try to make some news to reinforce
. >> storming the battleground, mitt romney plants his flag in ohio where new polls show he is within four points of president obama. his wingman today, chris christie. >> now we're down to the time where everybody is paying attention. now we're down to the time where the lights are the brightest, and the american people have to decide what's their future? >> president obama in ohio trying to rally the base at ohio state asking residents to vote early. >> the bus is around the corner that can get you there and back. don't wait. do not delay. go vote today. >> seriously off message the romney campaign tries to clean up, the governor's comments to "the des moines register" about abortion. >> do you intend to pursue any legislation specifically regarding abortion? >> i don't -- there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. one thing which i would change however which would be done by executive order not legislation, i would reinstate the mexico city policy. >> affirmative action, civil rights group rally as the supreme court revisi
who probably would have wound up with romney anyways have made the polls closer and the vice presidential debate will be an important one. >> and what would your advice be to joe biden in terms of being tougher but not too tough? what is the mix that he has to get through? he's got a pretty rich amount of material to go through because if he wants to go after the ryan budget cuts and medicare plan, number one, not the revised, those could be pretty powerful weapons according to the mainstream, you know, conventional thinking. >> my advice would be number one, you have to put the romney/ryan record on display and go after it and put out the inconsistencies in it. number two, defend his record and the president's record over the last fou years. >> that's the harder point. >> but i think the vice president's in a strong position to do that, he was in the room, on the day osama bin laden was taken or on the day when the president was inaugurateded and losing 800,000 jobs a month. number three, he has to draw a vivid contrast about the two different futures we can have under obama
attacking our nation's biggest banks. dagen: the latest pew poll gives mitt romney the edge in the race for the white house. bret baier is here to talk all about it. connell: another election game changer potentially. it could come out of the middle east. nato saying it is ready to help turkey defend itself from syria. big story for oil trading. and helima croft just back from turkey with the first word on what this means. dagen: top of the hour, stocks now and every 15 minutes. nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange on why we're seeing a sell off. nicole: we really are seeing a sell off. the dollar has accelerated here. we are seeing the markets selling off some. don't forget last week was our first winning week in three. dow jones industrials right now selling off about 1/2% ahead of earnings season which will kick off here. we are seeing banks, drugs, retailers, the transports are also lower. i'm using the major averages. of course always exceptions to the rule. talking about major indices we follow. also want to takk a look at apple which is now in correction territory fro
clear politics" poll average shows the president holding a very slim lead over governor romney in a head-to-head matchup. four years ago, president obama won that state. 13 electoral votes up for grabs in virginia with 270 the magic number needed to win but last night all eyes were on kentucky, home of the only vice-presidential debate this time around. the faceoff between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan got combative at times. the vice president raising eyebrows openly laughing, grinning, often interrupting his challenger, a display many republicans called disrespectful. with so much on the line both men got in their jobs. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. and with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth [laughter] it is empty mattally possible. it's been done before. precisely what we're prosing. >> it has never been done before. >> been done a couple times. jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. jon: they touched on the bi
of this debate, the fact that this didn't stop the bleeding, the closing of the polls, the big crowds that romney is getting i think we really have a competitive race. i think i give him the edge for the week with. jon: you think romney won the week. >> romney won the week. >> if it was the debate alone i'd say obama won the debate. coupled with libya and the problems that came out of there i think it's a wash for obama. he did not win the week, did not lose it. i think it was a tie pretty much. jon: we'll have to get that chalkboard up and see how this campaign has been going. thanks very much, bob beckel,ed rollins. jenna: new polls putting a critical swing state in play. governor mitt romney slashing the president's lead. what is behind this shift we'll ask a veteran political expert on the ground in michigan. also, one last journey for a space icon. we are going to take you along on the final ride for the space shuttle endeavour. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that d
that romney's favorables were not higher or there wasn't more of a change. the nbc news/marist poll october 3rd, romney, 42%, unfavorables 51%. now favorables are 44%, unfavorables 50%. that's within margin of error. effective i will no change, was surprising given the debate performance. >> the data are very clear, national data and individual state level data that we're seeing. and there has been movement. the race has changed and it is much more competitive than it was ten days ago, much more competitive. now the movement in ohio, the romney movement has been weaker than it was nationally or in places like virginia, florida, or colorado. and i think part of that is the obama campaign did a very good job early on airing ads early, focusing on ohio and delivering a message and defining mitt romney. they did not do that as well in the other states and frankly some of the other states have a more fundamental republican bend. it's true, the early obama ads about romney defining him, his wealth, i think it worked. the romney folks have a longer way to go. i should point out, alex, that it is pos
romney, for goodness sakes, mitt romney edged him in the fox poll on favorability. they've been attacking, the president and the vice president have been doing mostly attacking mostly on character, mostly personal attacks on tear opponents for five or six months. i would submit that has taken a heavy toll on the favorability and even the likability of the democratic ticket. and it looks like they're gonna have to keep it up to keep their base satisfied. but i don't know that that that's going to please swing voters. megyn: yeah. that underscores the problems going into a night like tonight. after a night like last week. chris stirewalt, thank you, sir. >> you bet. megyn: conservative and liberal bloggers are doing battle over a question of bias ahead of tonight's debate. the moderator is martha raddatz, she was chosen by the commission on presidential debates to do this. she has touched off a bit of a debate in the last few days. trace gallagher is tracking that piece of the story. >> martha raddatz is much more apt to be covering war than politics, she stopped covering the white house ba
system for medicare. polls show the race is tightening into a virtual tie. especially after last week's presidential debate. where mitt romney was widely viewed as the winner over barack obama. both sides say they're ready. >>i know how he will attack us. >>i think joe just needs to be joe. ryan is a smart and effective speaker. his ideas are the wrong ones. though biden is considered more experienced than ryan. political analysts say the vice president must avoid making one of his well-documented gaffes that end up distracting from the message. an issue that's sure to come up at tonight's debate is federal funding of amtrak. the company gets roughly one- point-four billion dollars a year in federal subsidies and counts vice president biden as one of its biggest supporters. biden has made more than 79- hundred round trips from wilmington, delaware to washington, d-c during his time on capitol hill. ryan's budget plan cuts federal subsides for amtrak and high speed rail projects. republicans favor privatizing the industry instead. national polls have the race for president in a de
and with 29 days until the election, welcome news for the romney campaign. a new gallop poll is showing a tighter race after the first debate last week, and the president is now up by just three points after being up by six points at his peak. >>> speaking of the president, he is poking fun at his sluggish debate performance last week. he took the stage at a gal kwru event last night, and following acts included bon jovi and katy per perry, and the president continues his california campaign swing later today. >>> meanwhile, mitt romney is spending the day in virginia where he is set to deliver a major foreign policy speech. he drew some of the largest crowds of his campaign in florida. >>> this week, it's the vice presidential campaign face-off. the vice presidential debate takes phraeugs thursday night and our team will be live from the debate, and our own martha from abc will be moderating. >> the pressure has to be on biden to compensate for those -- the lack of performance from the president in last week's debate. this will really be paul ryan's first big debate, and it's kind of l
and from new hampshire. the latest arg poll of likely voters shows mitt romney at 49% and president obama at 46%. that's in florida right now. that's within the sampling error. meanwhile, with just 25 days to go before election day there are some serious concerns about a republican financed voter registration effort in the state. cnn's crime and justice correspondent joe johns is joining us now with the latest on a criminal investigation making waves right here in washington. joe, what's going on? >> wolf he is a veteran gop operative who just doesn't seem to go away. a few weeks agoaway. a few weeks ago, a wave of bad publicity hit the waves. he was disavowed by the republican national committee. tonight, some democrats that criticize his tactics say they're worried he may still be operating in several key battleground states under a different company name. >> it all started with nathan sprule. they came under fire for providing false information at the supervisor of election office. they responded by throwing him under the bus even though he denies wrong doing.
the truth. the poll that came out today has obama 51, governor romney at 46. that is the nbc pool. it's going to be close in ohio. i mean, i would be foolish if i told you it was not going to be an incredibly close election, and that's why, you know, both teams, both candidates are working ohio. governor romney has been there frequently. the vice president has been there frequent leave. ohio i think can and will be perhaps the fire wall. but it's an exciting time. ohioans are engaged and involved but americans are. i'm really happy that there seems to be such wide-spread interest in this campaign. bill: would i agree with you, right on, and we should be too. the "real clear politics" average, when you put all the polls together in ohio has about a 1.5 point spread at the moment between president obama and governor romney. thank you for your time. you come back any time, all right? >> i'll take a point and a half. thank you. >> thank you for your time. i'm going to bring in senator pat toomey out of pennsylvania. good morning to you too also there in danville. >> thanks for having me.
. a few fox poll shows that governor romney is leading president obama among a critical group of vote e the independents. they are siding with romney over obama, 44% now to 32%. romney gaining ground since last wednesday's debate, while the president dropped more than ten minutes. bob cusack is the managing editor of "the hill." great to sigh. the all important voting block that can tilt elections one way or another, it does seem they were very swayed by the debate. when you see before the debate they supported obama 43%, now just 32%. are these choices now set or do these independents vacillate with each debate in. >> i think these independents are very wishee washer. a lot of pundits were saying there are no undecidedses, everyone is in their camp. this shows a 16-point swing here. that shows you how big the debate is. now tpher leaning towards romney. that's why the romney-ryan ticket has the momentum and it is anyone's race. in 2008 independents loved obama. in 2010 they rejected them. they are moving away from him after that bad debate performance last week. alisyn: before we move
at the polls. is that the reason you see the president leading romney among women in virginia, he's 16 points up over romney, the president is. he's 12 points up in ohio, 13 points in florida, ten points in wisconsin, six points in colorado among women voters in those key swing states? >> yes. it's not only rape that we're talking about. contraception is a huge issue. it's changed society in many ways. so women's access to contraception is the number one factor and allows us to go from second class status to first-class status. it allows us to have autonomy over our bodies and over our decision as far as our career path and family planning. >> laura bassett and zelina, thank you both for your time. >> thank you. >>> coming up, moderate mitt. meet 2009 mitt. a new tape surfaces with him praising glenn beck. but the questions don't stop there. you're watching "politicsnation" as we get ready for a big night here on the place for politics. msnbc. how did i get here? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good
on foreign policy. not exactly one of romney's stronger suits thus far. take a look at yet another poll here. the question being better on foreign policy shows him trailing the president by seven points on that one specifically. wolf blitzer, let's talk to you about all of this. joining me live from washington here. and we'll listen in a moment to that speech from mitt romney at vmi. let me ask you this, why a foreign policy speech this late in the election campaign? do you think he sees some sort of opening here? >> yes, i think that the killing of the american ambassador and three other americans in benghazi, libya, the consulate there, and the confusion surrounding the administration's explanation for what happened, the condemnation by some has given him a clear opening. take a look at what is happening throughout north africa and the middle east. he said that today. there is a lot of anti-american attitudes out there. he senses there is a moment now for him to take advantage and as you point out, brooke, he's going to have that foreign policy debate against president obama, that's the la
this poll this is a recent poll that shows more americans trusting obama over romney on foreign policy. do you think, though, that maybe, maybe team romney senses an opportunity, an opening here? >> yes, they definitely sense an opening as a result of what happened in benghazi, libya. i think the president has been popular as far as foreign policy is concerned as he got all the u.s. troops out of iraq, no more u.s. troops in iraq. americans are war weary, if you will, he's got a timeline to getting all u.s. troops out of afghanistan. but probably much more important than that, brooke, is that he managed to kill bin laden. that is something very, very popular. so i was a little surprised that romney went after the president in this speech today on iraq, because getting u.s. troops out of iraq has generally been popular, though romney did make valid points. the iraqi government, nuri al maliki is moving closer and closer to iran, it's facilitating iranian supplies of weapons to syria. this is not a good aftermath of all the years of struggle in iraq for sure. getting americans out of iraq th
. recent polls show that romney closing the gap. should it be a wake-up call for the president, the campaign that mitt romney thinks that the fight over foreign policy is one he's willing to take on? >> you know, i think we'll have to wait and see what governor romney says before we determine that. foreign policy, there's a lot to say that sounds great in rhetoric and platitudes and hearing plenty of governor romney and really about the approach and the policy and just in the previews i have heard a lot of the rhetoric is a little bit different but the underlying policies are very similar. i mean, the kinds of things i think the governor will recommend sound like things that are already happening and continuously hearing governor talk he doesn't seem to understand or speak to, you know, with china. it is not just currency manipulation and trade to worry about or deal with china on. it's also china involved in what's happening in the middle east. they're involved in other parts of the world so these relationships are very -- they're multilayered and they affect policy in many di
ago, republicans were quick to own all the pew data and the fact that romney was leading in the polls. the fact that it's not trending towards them now seems odd. megyn: the questions were raised because they chaingsd it so close teen election day, tucker. >> the cell phone change is not the only change that was made. the key change is in the sample, who gets the calls. they increased the size of the non-white sample in their sample set. megyn: that's one of the things axlerod wanted them to do. >> that's the key here. i have no knowledge that gallup is doing anything wrong or doing it because of pressure the federal government or the obama campaign. i'm merely noting this is a big deal. it has had a measurable change on the poll outcome on the band wagon effect is real. if people look at the polls and think somebody is going to win, if it's clear that person is leading, that person tends to get more support because he is leading. this is not a small thing. >> i would say we are talking about fractions and 1%, 2%. these aren't big massive jumps. truly the methodologies are important b
. >> reporter: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his base while mitt romney needs to convert 2008 obama voters. last night in kentucky, they got a lot of help from their running mates. rob, paula. back to you. >> thank you, karen. as karen alluded to -- polls are tight. dead heat in virginia. obama up one in florida. doing well in ohio up by six. in colorado, romney is ahead by a point now. virginia is still tight. obama is up by five there. wisconsin up by three. so it really is -- the country watches, but really about a cluster, maybe six, eight states will make or break this race. romney made up a lot of ground since last week's debate for sure. >> i don't know if this one will move the needle. both appealed to their base really. joe biden didn't make any fatal flaws. and neither did paul ryan in this one. but, you know let everybody spin it how they want. i looked at six different polls. three gave it to biden. three gave it to paul ryan. >> it's a draw essentially. >> pretty much is a draw. >> again, i know the media's inclination, folk's inclinatio
, boy. >> more campaign news in a new poll found only 47% of voters find mitt romney to be trustworthy. then romney is like, i hope it's not the same 47% that i don't care >>> we're back with joe biden's big night setting the social media on fire. facebook claims that biden got 36% more mentions than ryan. and check out the top three rise in google searches. the top search was biden. next was the word focornflating and then the word malarkey. >> it's never been done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> you're no jack kennedy moment, lloyd benson would be proud. meantime, twitter was ablazed with celebrity involvement. bill maher wrote, hello, 911, there's an old child beating on my tv. and post debate results just in. ryan now at 6% body fat, 94% water. the "politicsnation" facebook crowd was plugged in, too. marilynn said, thank god for joe's crisp vision he painted on behalf of the middle class. janet says her new favorite word is malarkey and roger was happy. the good old 47 was brought back to life. we want to hear
polls show an all-time high of voters who say it's a certain set of values. that's new. we didn't used to have that. when ryan and romney say, well, this is what i believe in is tho so this is going to be the law, ryan's position that we've talked about before is to the very far extreme of where the republicans are. >> now, does that come across clearly, dana, how extreme their position is? i mean, we're talking about not al debate as you would have a decade ago about pro life, pro choice. we're talking about ultrasound invasions. >> sure. >> we're talking about people redefining rape, legitimate rape, forceable rape. this is some extreme stuff we're talking about. >> reverend, that's also why you saw the pause there. it wasn't just a debate between ohio biden and paul ryan. there's a debate between paul ryan and mitt romney. and you can see him saying, am i answering for romney in 2012 or for paul ryan in 2016 when he hopes to be running for president? he has a very different position. he was like, okay, i'll go with the party line and say what it is for now. you saw the same thing, f
i mean. >> reporr: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his democratic base, while romney need to convert 2008 obama voters. rob, paula, last night here in kentucky, both of them got a lot of help from their running mates. >> karen, can we say there was a winner? can we call it a draw? i was looking at several polls, three gave it to paul ryan. three gave the to joe biden. was there a winner? or was this a tie? >> yeah, paula those instant reactions were showing voters were evenly split. but i think if you have to pick who really got what they wanted to get out of this debate it was vice president biden. the democrats are very happy because he basically stopped the bleeding from last weak's, the president's performance at last week's debate. he did two things very well. one, he promoted the president's policies and defended the president's record and did it by connecting with voters. and, that's not something that president obama was able to do last week. he also cam out aggressively against the romney policies by going after paul ryan very strongly. that is
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